Manga / Anime thread of GREAT JUSTICE - Spring '10 Edition!

[Nakor]

I figured I'd make a thread for it so we can stop taking over other threads when we randomly start talking about anime.

Also, I just read all the available Fairy Tail manga.

So. Win.

It's like taking the style of One Piece, but instead of a pirate anime, making it into a fantasy anime with mage guilds, and then infusing an appropriate amount of awesome. I shouldn't have waited half this long to check it out. o_o

Also, having trouble bringing myself to watch more Bleach now that I've hit the filler arc. First bit = too lame.

Also, Sukuran #7 get. Also, Ranma ½ #16-20 get.

Also saw Clannad trailer. Wasn't amazed. But then, they had a bunch of random girls saying one line each that didn't mean anything on its own. So it's probably just a badly made trailer. I hope.

[Frong]

JOR GREAT FUSTICE!!!

It's like taking the style of One Piece, but instead of a pirate anime, making it into a fantasy anime with mage guilds, and then infusing an appropriate amount of awesome. I shouldn't have waited half this long to check it out. o_o

Hmm... did you get that scanlated off the intarweb, or did you buy it? I'm still not in the habit of buying manga or anime, since I almost never rewatch or reread anything, but if it's really that awesome, I might consider it.

The big fat Bleach filler arc (Who came up with the name "Bounto," anyway? They couldn't think of anything better? ), as we discussed in Hijacked By Otaku Discussion Thread #13423092834.q, is not quite as suck as OP filler and decidedly less suck than Naruto filler, but it's still basically teh suck on a non-relative scale. The fact that the normal story arc it follows was pretty badass doesn't help any. That said, I quit watching the Bleach anime entirely a few months ago, even after it went back to the manga-based storyline. The show moves too damn slow for me, and I read the manga every week anyway, so I already know what happens. For some odd reason, I actually get something out of watching Naruto Shippuuden, even though I read that manga every week, too. I guess the story is just better or something.

Also saw Clannad trailer. Wasn't amazed. But then, they had a bunch of random girls saying one line each that didn't mean anything on its own. So it's probably just a badly made trailer. I hope.

I noticed that about a day or two after the pages at AniDB for both the Clannad movie and TV series were put up, the temp ratings for them were at like 8.80 or something. <INSERT HORDES OF RABID DATING SIM OTAKUS HERE> If a show's got a high enough rating, I'll usually give it a shot regardless of what genre it is, but I just haven't felt like watching the remake of Kanon, in spite of its really high rating with a huge number of votes. Seeing as Clannad is the same genre, if I haven't felt like watching one dating sim-based show for whatever reason, I probably won't feel like watching a different one, either.

I also don't need to add any more shows to my list of things to watch than necessary, now that it's almost time for the fall season premiers. I'm already going to watch the second seasons of Shakugan no Shana and Genshiken, I'll definitely give Juushin Enbu (cause it's made by the guy who did FMA ) and the new Gundam show (cause I have a soft spot for Gundam stuff) a shot, and there are probably one or two other new shows that'll end up being good enough to warrant my attention (there usually are, and it's nearly impossible to tell at first which ones they'll be). I've made a concerted effort for the last year and something to only watch the better shows out there, rather than give nearly anything a chance, like I did in college. That's what ended up having me watching 25 shows at once, even though some of them were just meh at best. Not worth it.

[Nakor]

I watch a bunch of stuff, and by ep 1 or 2 decide what wasn't worth it. I decided to give CLANNAD a shot (actually, it's something that's probably more Tanis's interest). I'm also looking at You're Under Arrest: Full Throttle, Rental Magika, Suteki Tantei Labyrinth, Bamboo Blade, and Night Wizard. Not a big fan of the mecha style ones.

Also, never watched the first season of Shakugan no Shana but everyone's talking about it. Is it worth trying to watch, despite the backload of anime I've already got?

And yeah, I got Fairy Tail off the intarweb. KEFI has the first 52, after that they dropped it an Franky House picked it up (as well as one or two other groups I've thought of checking; the FH ones weren't the best quality).

What really gets you watching too many shows at once is when you watch too many Spring/Fall shows that go 26 episodes, and halfway through the Summer/Winter ones show up.

[Frong]

Cool, I'll look for the Fairy Tail manga, then. Maybe there's a convenient batch torrent somewhere. That'd be nice.

I think SnS is worth watching, myself. Creative premise, interesting characters (most of whom get at least some character development; even the Generic-Looking Male Lead only looks generic, and actually has personality), good animation and production qualities... overall a well-made show. Oh, and Shana's seiyuu is the one who does Nagi in Hayate no Gotoku and Louise in Zero no Tsukaima. That lady = win. In fact, I saw a wallpaper with Shana, Nagi, and Louise all on the beach wearing bikinis, made as a tribute to the chars that seiyuu play. All three are similar character types, and all three are well-done performances. Good stuff.

Am I the only one that thinks that dating-sim based shows are juuuust a tad in conflict with Tanis's loud, gun-loving personality?

As for all those upcoming shows you listed, the only one I probably won't give a shot is Labyrinth. Detective shows usually move too slowly for me. I even got bored with Death Note after about 12 or 13 eps due to its slow pace, and that's probably the best show of that nature out there. All the other ones look at least fairly interesting. Night Wizard in particular might be good, if it's got a non-cliched story and the animation is as good as the promo art. I've seen too many shows where the character montage is great and the actual animation is kinda crappy. Wankers, deceiving me with the art quality like that...

[Nakor]

Cool, I'll look for the Fairy Tail manga, then. Maybe there's a convenient batch torrent somewhere. That'd be nice.

'Fraid not (at least, not that I've found), none of it's on torrent actually, they're all direct download. Manga updates (linked from baka-updates) has links to the groups that scanlate it.

I think SnS is worth watching, myself. Creative premise, interesting characters (most of whom get at least some character development; even the Generic-Looking Male Lead only looks generic, and actually has personality), good animation and production qualities... overall a well-made show. Oh, and Shana's seiyuu is the one who does Nagi in Hayate no Gotoku and Louise in Zero no Tsukaima. That lady = win. In fact, I saw a wallpaper with Shana, Nagi, and Louise all on the beach wearing bikinis, made as a tribute to the chars that seiyuu play. All three are similar character types, and all three are well-done performances. Good stuff.

Hmm, I may have to add it to my backlog then I guess. Mind you (having not quite finished season two) I hate Louise. She drives me batty. That series makes me yearn for a writer to finally have the guts to let the main character choose someone other than the loud-and-obnoxious-and-yet-still-clearly-going-to-get-the-guy female lead. Ò_Ó Tsundere has its limits.

Am I the only one that thinks that dating-sim based shows are juuuust a tad in conflict with Tanis's loud, gun-loving personality?

Yeah, I know. But he obsessed over Air, and then he obsessed over Kanon too. I think if I showed him KimiNozo it might not fly so well though.

As for all those upcoming shows you listed, the only one I probably won't give a shot is Labyrinth. Detective shows usually move too slowly for me. I even got bored with Death Note after about 12 or 13 eps due to its slow pace, and that's probably the best show of that nature out there. All the other ones look at least fairly interesting. Night Wizard in particular might be good, if it's got a non-cliched story and the animation is as good as the promo art. I've seen too many shows where the character montage is great and the actual animation is kinda crappy. Wankers, deceiving me with the art quality like that...

Entirely possible I'll drop Labyrinth too, really; Nakor = lazy (as everyone knows) and therefore, I really haven't done any real research into most of these shows. I just kind of picked anything I thought I might make, made a short list, and so far have left it at that. I'll usually give anything fantasy genre a shot though, unless it's clearly crap.

Also, I saw the Clannad Movie DVD promo that was put on TT a while ago . . . lord that quality was crap until most of the way through it. o_o Trailer = not worth watching, except for the song near the end when they quit the old-crappy-movie-theatre-recording art.

[Frong]

'Fraid not (at least, not that I've found), none of it's on torrent actually, they're all direct download. Manga updates (linked from baka-updates) has links to the groups that scanlate it.

Eh... blarg. Well, at least SOMEBODY has it. Direct DL is a hell of a lot better than having to try and find it on eMule or some other file sharing program, anyway.

Mind you (having not quite finished season two) I hate Louise. She drives me batty. That series makes me yearn for a writer to finally have the guts to let the main character choose someone other than the loud-and-obnoxious-and-yet-still-clearly-going-to-get-the-guy female lead. Ò_Ó Tsundere has its limits.

I dunno, I find Louise to be a tad less grating at times in the second season than the first one. It's a direct correlation to the fact that in the second season, she treats Saito more like a human and less like a dog. Also, the story is a little better the second time around, the supporting cast takes more of the focus off of Louise than before, and I think I simply have a higher tolerence for tsundere than you. That said, a lot of writers seem to have trouble with leaning too far towards the tsun half, and that can get annoying without the proper balance. Shana isn't really tsundere (she's more businesslike than anything else) and she's not maniacally abusive, either, so she's basically a different character type than Louise. Whether she also turns out to annoy you or not, I have no idea. You'll have to be the judge of that. On a sort of related note, I'd kinda rather see Saito end up with Siesta or the freakin' queen than Louise.

Yeah, I know. But he obsessed over Air, and then he obsessed over Kanon too. I think if I showed him KimiNozo it might not fly so well though.

I thought KimiNozo was pretty good, particularly the fact that the ending wasn't how you'd typically expect a story like that to end up. Why wouldn't it fly so well with Tanis? Because it isn't in the insanely cute style of Air or Kanon?

Entirely possible I'll drop Labyrinth too, really; Nakor = lazy (as everyone knows) and therefore, I really haven't done any real research into most of these shows. I just kind of picked anything I thought I might make, made a short list, and so far have left it at that. I'll usually give anything fantasy genre a shot though, unless it's clearly crap.

Here's what I wanna know: why are so many fantasy anime these days either partially or total crap? It seems like too many of them are cliched and/or have iffy production values, either of which will turn me off in an instant. The only really, really good fantasy show I've found lately is Seirei no Moribito, and that's not even all that fantastical. I need to get the remastered Slayers Next boxset already...

Also, I saw the Clannad Movie DVD promo that was put on TT a while ago . . . lord that quality was crap until most of the way through it. o_o Trailer = not worth watching, except for the song near the end when they quit the old-crappy-movie-theatre-recording art.

Ya rly. I had DL'd it a little while ago but not watched it yet, so I heeded your warning and skimmed through it. Thanks for saving me some boredom and brain cells.

[Nakor]

I dunno, I find Louise to be a tad less grating at times in the second season than the first one. It's a direct correlation to the fact that in the second season, she treats Saito more like a human and less like a dog. Also, the story is a little better the second time around, the supporting cast takes more of the focus off of Louise than before, and I think I simply have a higher tolerence for tsundere than you. That said, a lot of writers seem to have trouble with leaning too far towards the tsun half, and that can get annoying without the proper balance. Shana isn't really tsundere (she's more businesslike than anything else) and she's not maniacally abusive, either, so she's basically a different character type than Louise. Whether she also turns out to annoy you or not, I have no idea. You'll have to be the judge of that. On a sort of related note, I'd kinda rather see Saito end up with Siesta or the freakin' queen than Louise.

Siesta would be perfect for him. I normally don't have that much of an issue with tsundere, but Louise just irritated me beyond belief. In comparison, I liked characters like Hiiragi Kagami (Lucky Star), Sawachika Eri (School Rumble), and Tendou Akane (Ranma ½). While Akane's probably close to as bad as Louise, she had two things going for her—Ranma was my first anime, so I hadn't already seen 100 tsundere, and I figured Ranma always deserved it anyway. (Saito only deserves it roughly 1/3 of the time at this point, if even that.)

I thought KimiNozo was pretty good, particularly the fact that the ending wasn't how you'd typically expect a story like that to end up. Why wouldn't it fly so well with Tanis? Because it isn't in the insanely cute style of Air or Kanon?

He doesn't like the depressing parts, which indeed, is a bit ironic. I don't think he'd go for the main character's style either, since KimiNozo is a little truer to its original ero-games in style than a show like Kanon.

Kanon had one huge thing going for it: the main character was the most hilarious jackass I'd seen in an anime in quite some time. There were a number of good quips/pranks that made the first half of the show.

Here's what I wanna know: why are so many fantasy anime these days either partially or total crap? It seems like too many of them are cliched and/or have iffy production values, either of which will turn me off in an instant. The only really, really good fantasy show I've found lately is Seirei no Moribito, and that's not even all that fantastical. I need to get the remastered Slayers Next boxset already...

Yeah, I know. Seirei is more of a historical fiction/fantasy combo. Well, Zero no Tsukaima is also in there as a fantasy, as well as Claymore (although Claymore's not high fantasy which is my preference).

But really, if there are few good fantasy anime, then there are no good fantasy movies. LotR was the last decent high fantasy and what before that? D&D? Hollywood phails at fantasy productions. Come to think of it, if Fairy Tail gets picked up as an anime eventually (and at 54 chapters, it's nowhere near the point that it would yet), it has the potential to be an awesome fantasy shounen.

Ya rly. I had DL'd it a little while ago but not watched it yet, so I heeded your warning and skimmed through it. Thanks for saving me some boredom and brain cells.

No problem.

Also, forgot to include in my upcoming anime list: ef - A Tale of Memories, and Prism Ark. (Prism Ark is another quasi-fantasy, but may have mechas mixed in or something; it's hard to tell from the preview. Well, the art's good anyway.)

[KenseidenXL]

I figured I'd make a thread for it so we can stop taking over other threads when we randomly start talking about anime.

Also, I just read all the available Fairy Tail manga.

So. Win.

It's like taking the style of One Piece, but instead of a pirate anime, making it into a fantasy anime with mage guilds, and then infusing an appropriate amount of awesome. I shouldn't have waited half this long to check it out. o_o

Also, having trouble bringing myself to watch more Bleach now that I've hit the filler arc. First bit = too lame.

Also, Sukuran #7 get. Also, Ranma ½ #16-20 get.

Also saw Clannad trailer. Wasn't amazed. But then, they had a bunch of random girls saying one line each that didn't mean anything on its own. So it's probably just a badly made trailer. I hope.

OK, the Don Kanonji episode was crapola, but there were a few eps featuring character backstories. I consider those to be just as important as the main storyline.


CN just aired the first One Piece done by FUNi. It SUCKED!!!!! I do NOT like this new crop of VOAs.

[Nakor]

Yeah, Don Kanonji was indeed crap. But I was actually referring to the start of the really long filler arc in the 60s. The one where Lilin, Claude and Nova first show up. Up to 80 now, a lot more tolerable. I haven't actually skipped any episodes. No wait -- I didn't technically skip it, but the second time a random Don Kanonji ep popped up, I do recall skipping a few minutes at a time to get through it faster. >_>

[Frong]

Oh, sure, the long long Bleach filler arc gets more tolerable when they're facing off against actual enemy-type people and not a bunch of random annoying dolls, but it's still pretty bleh compared to the normal parts of the show. It just doesn't have any feeling of tension to it, at least in part because half the enemies are cheezy. Dude who makes snakes out of everything? Twins who control giant blob of water? Laaaaame. And yes, Don Kanonji eps = teh suck. That guy officially makes baby Jesus cry. And lose brain cells.

Btw, both ef and Prism Ark are based on eroge. Gotta have your eroge shows, huh?

CN just aired the first One Piece done by FUNi. It SUCKED!!!!! I do NOT like this new crop of VOAs.

Is it really that bad? I haven't heard it yet, but for it to be worse than the gawd-awful 4Kids version, it must by astoundingly bad.

[Nakor]

I should only hope that at least it will be unedited, and if it ever gets to DVD it will remain unedited and have a decent sub. Although, at this point I'm not holding much personal interest in it doing so.

And seriously, eroge make up a pretty large chunk of anime. I kind of guessed ef would be. Didn't know Prism Ark was though. Say, why is it eroge always get the crazy high quality art? Or recently they do anyway.

[Frong]

Yes, a large chunk of anime are indeed based upon eroge. Now what does THAT tell you about the country of Japan? As for why all the eroge shows get the awesome artwork, it's probably because they tend to be more visually-oriented than something that was more story-oriented in the first place. It's not like that's an ironclad rule or anything (see: Seirei no Moribito, which has both story AND excellent art ), but the average eroge is fairly likely to be primarily eye candy, for obvious reasons. I would guess that carries over to their anime forms.

[KenseidenXL]

FUNi changed the opening and ALL of the VOAs. Luffy's isn't that bad, but what they did with Nami and Sanji is fooking sick.

[Masamune]

I'm just happy Cowboy Bebop is back on Adult Swim. I wish they'd get Inuyasha OFF! A whole hour of it? Blah! I hate that show more than I hate my job right now.

I finished up Elfen Lied awhile ago.

[Jake Monroe]

I've only been watching Bleach and Naruto shippuuden lately as I have not had time for much of anything else. Still debaiting just reading the Bleach manga instead because of the stupid fillers. Hell even when they went back to the true story they had to throw in random fillers for some reason. Better then doing a DBZ I guess, though it would be nice if they'd at least make the fillers be... good.